diff --git a/lib/Command/CirclesList.php b/lib/Command/CirclesList.php
index 967cc1a27..1915b8350 100644
--- a/lib/Command/CirclesList.php
+++ b/lib/Command/CirclesList.php
@@ -257,9 +257,9 @@ private function displayCircles(array $circles): void {
 					Circle::$DEF_SOURCE[$circle->getSource()],
 					$this->cut($displayName ? $owner->getDisplayName() : $owner->getUserId(), 40),
 					$this->configService->displayInstance($owner->getInstance()),
-					$circle->getPopulation() . '/' . $this->getInt(
-						'members_limit', $circle->getSettings(), -1
-					)
+					$circle->getPopulation() . '/'
+					. $this->getInt('members_limit', $circle->getSettings(), -1)
+					. ' (' . $circle->getPopulationInherited() . ')'
 				]
 			);
 		}
diff --git a/lib/FederatedItems/CircleCreate.php b/lib/FederatedItems/CircleCreate.php
index 5f2803016..38f725f14 100644
--- a/lib/FederatedItems/CircleCreate.php
+++ b/lib/FederatedItems/CircleCreate.php
@@ -142,7 +142,9 @@ public function manage(FederatedEvent $event): void {
 
 		$this->circleRequest->save($circle);
 		$this->memberRequest->save($owner);
+
 		$this->membershipService->onUpdate($owner->getSingleId());
+		$this->membershipService->updatePopulation($circle);
 
 		$this->eventService->circleCreating($event);
 	}