Piano Roll Ghost notes

[DoosC]

Background sequences could be very useful in the piano roll view, see for example : http://ariamaestosa.sourceforge.net/docs/background.png

[diizy]

On 03/27/2014 11:14 PM, DoosC wrote:

Background sequences could be very useful in the piano roll view, see
for example : http://ariamaestosa.sourceforge.net/docs/background.png

This has also been discussed IIRC, should be implemented at some point...

[pgiblock]

I don't understand

[diizy]

On 03/28/2014 12:23 AM, Paul Giblock wrote:

I don't understand

Showing notes of other patterns in the background of the piano roll (at
least I think this issue is about that)

[musikBear]

ghostnotes +1

[DoosC]

Yes I meant ghostnotes !
It's a powerfull composing tool, see how it is used with great benefit in this tutorial : http://www.midichords.com/posts/from-chord-progression-to-hymn-of-the-last-whale

[badosu]

@musikBear @tresf @DoosC Can you help me design this feature?

Apart from the ghost note drawing design, I have some questions:

1. How do we define which patterns will be ghosted?
2. In which piano-rolls should the ghost notes appear?

[musikBear]

I mailed you a design idea a good week ago .. at least i thought i did :p -Same profile picture.. so i thought ..mm If not his evil twin, then same person :D
It should be in your mail-list inbox?
but it is essential what i wrote here on 8 May 2014: #696
I now know that there are one snag -All note-events are processed by the engine, also if they have 0 volume (diiz told me) Also setting notes to negative volume (-1) could that be a problem? -but the design in #696 would also work if the notes are set to 0.
If there is anything unclear or just garbadge, dont hesitate to ping me here

[Sti2nd]

1. Could be right click on a pattern i Song Editor and "Choose as ghost reference"
2. Are there several Piano Rolls? Are you doing this as well Split(Dual) View Piano Rolls #1438 ?

[tresf]

I mailed you a design idea a good week ago .. at least i thought i did :p -Same profile picture.. so i thought ..mm If not his evil twin, then same person :D

Don't do this please, use our tracker instead so there's no doubt.

Here's the picture hotlinked above, which I feel is adequate for a visual representation:

As far as @badosu's questions about "which notes", I have a hard time envisioning that too.... There's a lot of potential patterns and tracks to choose from, so the enhancement should go as far as to offer HOW this will be selected, not just WHY. Because if there's no HOW, we can't fix it and we can never close this bug report.

[DoosC]

As @Sti2nd suggested, right-clicking on the current piano roll to select a "ghost track" seems fine. An icon with a small ghost right on the piano rool toolbar would be nice too ;) Something like this : 👻
Right-clicking either on the piano roll or on the ghost would then bring a hierarchical drop-down menu : level 1 would be the track name as in the song editor, and level 2 would be the clip number for the selected (level 1) track.
For example :

🔽 Kick
- Kick 1
- Kick 2
- Kick 3
- Kick 4
▶️ Snare

Does that sound feasible ?

[tresf]

Does that sound feasible ?

What if the track has multiple different patterns?