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What?

Menus are getting slightly long as we are adding features:

Screenshot 2025-11-19 at 12 09 47

Aside careful curation of items, as well as future grouping in flyouts, part of the reason they go long (and therefore occasionally have to scroll, or open upwards instead of downwards), is that all menu items are the default 40px size.

This PR proposes changing all menu items to be 32px by default.

Why?

It makes menu items far more compact, yet still comfortable in density.

Screenshots:

Screenshot 2025-11-19 at 11 46 40 Screenshot 2025-11-19 at 11 46 58 Screenshot 2025-11-19 at 11 47 10 Screenshot 2025-11-19 at 11 52 25 Screenshot 2025-11-19 at 12 03 57

Testing Instructions

Check out the branch, then test:

  • block toolbar kebab menu
  • transform menu
  • inline text "more" menu
  • top toolbar kebab menu
  • color flyouts

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This can appear a sensitive change due to how high level and generic this is, so please give it any attention you feel is necessary. But I think it may not be as controversial after all. The height of the button is based on a default icon size of 24px, and then with padding to make the button have its previously-default height of 36px. The math checks out: 24 + 6 + 6 = 36. This is already paired with height: $button-size, where $button-size === 36.

Which means that even if we apply size="compact", which should make the button 32px tall, it still is 36px tall, because 24+6+6 forces it that way. By changing this padding to 4px, we now allow the button to be just 32px tall, but past default buttons should still be 36px tall because the $button-size still maintains that.

Let me know if this logic makes sense.

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Denser menus seem worth trying. Should we update the newer Menu component too? Otherwise we're going to have inconsistent menu dimensions.

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Just a drive-by comment to say that I love this idea, particularly for laptop screens, this feels much more comfortable. I.e. on a nearly full screen window on a 15 inch laptop:

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It looks great. Nice improvement ✨

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Not something to solve here, but since it could help inform our direction towards density as an aspect of theming (#73215) I'm curious about any expectations with regards to how Menu adapts (if at all) to different density modes. In other words, are there cases where 40px menu items remain valid (perhaps for touch devices), or cases where we'd want menu items to be smaller than 32px?

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I think there are valid use cases, but they are probably somewhat exotic at this point, so I'd veer towards solving that problem at a later time. And in the mean time just be aware, perhaps.

I'm having to shift gears to some writing tasks at the moment, so it's unlikely I'll be able to address the good feedback already shared today. If you're antsy, feel free to push directly, otherwise I'll come back to this as soon as I can.

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mirka commented Nov 21, 2025

I agree this is a good case for the new density theming. While Menu itself doesn't really need density variants at the moment, similar listbox-ish components like Select and Combobox should us the same density scale, and at least Select currently has use cases for an even denser list layout.

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That probably suggests the move toward 32px makes even more sense because it can serve as the default and open the door to 40px being the 'comfortable' density variant, and something else—24px might be a stretch being the compact density.

@jasmussen I think we should update Menu too (40px32px), otherwise we're going to introduce inconsistent menu sizing xD

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Okay, I believe I've updated the Menu component correctly now, but since that's using a particular setup, I would really appreciate some extra eyes on my last commit, and if something is off, feel free to push.

Other than that, this one is ready for a final review, and then I can start updating changelogs.

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Seems to be working 👍

I could go either way on this personally, but with the smaller item height do you think we should tighten other Menu metrics?

This PR Tightened spacing
Screenshot 2025-12-02 at 15 44 32 Screenshot 2025-12-02 at 15 47 29

The screenshot on the right features reduced inline padding, reduced gap between label/description, reduced hr margin, and reduced gap between icon and text.

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I have an ever so slight preference for what exists, but it's not at all a strong opinion, and if you prefer the rightmost one, feel free to push it.

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No preference really :)

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@jasmussen jasmussen force-pushed the try/32px-menu-items branch from 73d6544 to 198792c Compare December 4, 2025 12:38
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Okay, I rebased, updated the snapshots and the changelog. Assuming things'll be green soon, would anyone like to give it a final check and perhaps a ✅?

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Maybe this could be the start of making everything mode condensed :P

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