feat: more gentle icon

[skjnldsv]

I find the current icon a bit out of our icon style.
Using material design icon, I suggest we use this :)

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Quick PR, feel free to discard 😉

[jancborchardt]

Agree that the current icon can use improvement – the suggestion looks a bit too much like a calculator though @skjnldsv?

What do you think about the Material Design "table" icon: https://pictogrammers.com/library/mdi/icon/table/
I would approve :)

[skjnldsv]

What do you think about the Material Design "table" icon: pictogrammers.com/library/mdi/icon/table

I wanted to use that one, but it's not an official Google one, so I figured you would prefer a slightly different one from what Google offers 😉

Let's use the one you proposed! 🚀

[skjnldsv]

Done! See updated first comment @jancborchardt

[datenangebot]

Please have in mind: The focus is not to handle tables and it's data, it will be more like a "no coding apps platform" one day. Automation, integration and different view modes (tiles, grid, blog, table, ...) will be in the focus. Maybe the icon can support this approach a bit more.

The proposed icon is not that bad, as it does not explicit look like an table, could also be a grid or tiles...
But it looks a bit like a window or a positioning indicator for windows on a desktop...
What about this one? https://pictogrammers.com/library/mdi/icon/apps-box/

@Hephi2 What do you think?

[juliusknorr]

But it looks a bit like a window or a positioning indicator for windows on a desktop...

Which would somehow also fit the larger no code "app" picture. The apps box looks a bit too generic in my oppinion, the table one for me also brings some association with structured data, which I'd say is a better fit - and as you mentioned it could also be generic enough to be matching grid/tile layouts.

[datenangebot]

But it looks a bit like a window or a positioning indicator for windows on a desktop...

Which would somehow also fit the larger no code "app" picture. The apps box looks a bit too generic in my oppinion, the table one for me also brings some association with structured data, which I'd say is a better fit - and as you mentioned it could also be generic enough to be matching grid/tile layouts.

We already use that icon in a very present way, because it is included in any text editor all over nextcloud:

Thus I would tend to my suggestion...?

[skjnldsv]

We already use that icon in a very present way, because it is included in any text editor all over nextcloud:

Which is fine as it is referring to... tables ;)

[juliusknorr]

@datenangebot How about going with the tables one for now then? We can always reconsider others once the no-code platform roadmap has moved, but as the app is called tables and a table representation is the only display mode as of now this seems the best one for the time being.

[skjnldsv]

Considering Julius and Jan's comments as approval. Le'ts go :)

[jancborchardt]

Yes, we can always adjust.
Further down the line, a new icon which reflects additional no-code capabilities can even go along with a "Tables 2"-like announcement which I’m sure @jospoortvliet would be happy about. :)

[datenangebot]

@skjnldsv Please stop merging things without my approval!
I don't think that if two people agree that is a consent.

Don't get me wrong, I agree to change the icon. But please lets have a discussion that includes all aspects.
Changing an Icon is a big thing. Icons work as an I catcher. Seeing that table icon from text lets you expect a quite normal table.

The tables app is intended to make something like a no-coding-platform for nextcloud based on tables. (At least that's what I discussed with Frank.)
So if the name "tables" is misleading here, lets have a discussion for a better naming in general here.

And the other think is that I like to have a feedback from marketing here. Changing an icon might have side effects. Adjusting many times the icon can't be a good idea. And there is no strategy for having a "tables-2" announcement so far.

[ChristophWurst]

(reflex)

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[datenangebot]

I try to summarize and add one new idea:

Icon	Status	Comment
	actual used	does not fitting from a design perspective
	⛔️	is used for "normal" tables all over the nextcloud system, eg in text editor
	⛔️	used in appstore for "apps"
	💡new idea	maybe we can just adjust the actual one for a better fitting. Here slightly rounded corners. Open for more adjustment ideas!
	💡new idea 2	https://pictogrammers.com/library/mdi/icon/table-large/

@nimishavijay @jancborchardt @juliushaertl What do you think about the new icon idea?

[jancborchardt]

@datenangebot I think "New idea 2" would fit the Nextcloud style best. :)

[mortee]

Just my 2c, "new idea 2" seems the best to me. Apparently matches the style of the other icons, while also doesn't cause potential confusion.