[recipe] fix: Update the grpo training script for gpt-oss models#3836
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This pull request updates the GRPO training script for gpt-oss models by removing obsolete package installation steps and tuning several training parameters. The changes include adjusting batch sizes for MoE stability, increasing the maximum response length, and adding a reasoning_effort parameter.
While the changes are generally positive, I have a critical concern regarding performance. The get_model.py script within run_gptoss_20b.sh configures the model to use attn_implementation=\"eager\". This setting will persist in the saved model's config.json and will be used during the main FSDP training loop. For a large model like gpt-oss-20b, using the unoptimized eager attention mechanism will be significantly slower and more memory-intensive than optimized alternatives like Flash Attention, severely impacting training efficiency.
While eager might be required for the Mxfp4Config quantization with device_map=\"auto\", it's detrimental for training. I recommend investigating if a more performant attention implementation like flash_attention_2 can be used. If eager is strictly necessary for the initial model download and quantization, consider patching the config.json file after the get_model.py script runs to switch to a faster implementation for the training stage. For example, you could add the following line to the shell script:
sed -i 's/\"attn_implementation\": \"eager\"/\"attn_implementation\": \"flash_attention_2\"/' \"${HOME}/models/gpt-oss-20b-bf16/config.json\"This would ensure the training part of the script benefits from optimized attention, while the initial model preparation remains unchanged.
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